Industry Interview: Dave Stevens of Pure Pop Records

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Mention to any Melburnian that you're going to a chilled out Sunday afternoon gig to watch a great music act, chances are they'll turn around and ask, "Pure Pop?"

Tucked away in the iconic suburb of St Kilda, Pure Pop has carved itself out a niche as being quite possibly the only combined record store, record label, cafe and live music venue in the world. And despite being in one of the city's trendiest, celebrity-filled areas, you will find no pretension here at all. You can pick out a quality vinyl at the front, or head to the back and enjoy a good toastie and beer while watching an intimate unplugged set on the venue's tiny stage (which we imagine is battling out with The Birmy for first place in the small-stage-stakes).

Paper-Deer had a beer with owner Dave Stevens about his pride and joy.

As one of the owners of Pure Pop, one of Melbourne's iconic record stores, what do you do?

It’s more of a question of what don’t I do.  Pure Pop is a pretty small operation and between myself and our three staff members we manage to get most things done.  We manage to run the record store, café, bar and venue pretty smoothly although it can have its moments of chaos.

It's been said that Pure Pop is the only record store/cafe/live music venue/record label in the world. How did the idea to combine four amazing concepts together?

I think it was when I realised that I had achieved my dream of owning my own record store about twenty years too late. Downloading, CD burning and other things had conspired to make my CD store as popular as a penny farthing shop. I was trying to sell something that was pretty much available free elsewhere, albeit illegally but with very little chance of prosecution. After a few months of no sales, banks and creditors screaming, debt collectors knocking my door I was sitting in the empty backyard of Pure Pop, head in hands wondering what I was going to do.

The idea of the bar and live venue came to me and with the help of a few tradie friends we transformed the place bit by bit over a few months to make the venue and start putting on bands. The liquor license took longer (two years) but somehow we survived, I really don’t know how, but now we have a place that we can truly be proud of. Alcohol sales allow us to keep our CD and vinyl stocks healthy and the increased traffic through the store has led to increased sales of music.

It is often mentioned to us that we should get rid of the music and open up the whole place as a bar and live venue. We would make more money but to be honest the soul of the place is that we are first and foremost a record store and always will be.

Does the cat in Pure Pop's logo belong to someone? (Weird question, but I've always wondered.)

The cat is a tattoo that I have. Pretty fierce, hey?

Paper-Deer has heard about the Pop  Goes the Curfew gig around the traps, and particularly that Swedish group The Men are flying down for the gig. What else can you tell us about the gig?

It started out as our fifth anniversary gig but unfortunately we opened our doors in July – not the best time to put things on in St Kilda. We spoke to the Prince and they were keen to do something in January.  From there it snowballed and now it’s become an all singing, all dancing entertainment one night only spectacular!

                                                                       

The Men were the first band we put out on the Pure Pop label way back in the deep dark days. They are a fantastic sixties style mod band from Lund in Sweden. We’ve stayed in touch over the years and in November I wrote to Sven Kohler (The Men’s frontman) to catch up, and mentioned the Pure Pop gig in passing and he said he’d ask the guys if they were keen to come down. The rest is history.

The other bands on the bill are all Pure Pop faves who have graced the courtyard stage over the years. Gun Street Girls and Pony Face will be able to turn up the volume a bit higher than our council restrictions allow so that will be great. Mates of ours like Tim Rogers, Charles Jenkins, Ryan Coffey, Jeff May, Heath & Alex (from Dirt River Radio) and Hugh Gurney (from The Skybombers) are dropping by to do a song or two each and the fantastic comedy duo Anyone For Tennis will be hosting the night.

Pure Pop is known for amazingly intimate gigs from prominent musical artists in your cosy venue. Why the decision to host Pop Goes the Curfew at the Prince of Wales Bandroom?

Our courtyard is very small and of course outside. Therefore all our shows are limited to 50 people and we have strict sound restrictions. We wanted to a have a party, we have more than 50 friends and we wanted to make a lot of noise. The Prince have been great friends of ours – as have all the St Kilda venues – and offered us their place to hold the party.

Pure Pop's incredibly unassuming stage has seen the likes of Charles Jenkins, Tim Rogers, Kate Miller-Heidke, The Swell Season, Barry Adamson and more. Which act was your absolute favourite and why?

It would be too easy to say The Swell Season because their performance was spine-tinglingly great as were the others you’ve mentioned but what really excited us was when a 17-year-old school kid named Alex Lashlie dropped in after school to ask if he could play. We gave him a Friday night spot and he absolutely blew the place away. He ended up doing Fridays for over 12 months and his sets became legendary. He’s now 20 and is touring Europe.

Owning your own indie record store always seems like the ultimate job. Any advice for budding music lovers who are desperate to get into the business?

Don’t open in St Kilda. This spot’s taken. Seriously it makes me sad to say but I wouldn’t recommend anyone opening a record store unless they are able to supplement the turnover with something else. We’ve gone down the route of bar, café, venue but there are other options.

UPCOMING EVENTS:

• January 1: Conway Savage at Pure Pop
• Sunday January 2: The Adventure Spirit and Pure Pop Ha/Ha at Pure Pop
• Saturday January 8: Brillig, Ben Revi, Chris Assaad, Conway Savage at Pure Pop
  
• Sunday January 9: Cambodian Space Project, Coby Grant, The Scholars and The Skybombers at Pure Pop
• Friday January 14: Large Number 12s at Pure Pop
• Saturday January 15: Jules Sheldon, Dan Webb, Conway Savage at Pure Pop
• January 16: Pop Goes the Curfew at the Prince Bandroom [with The Men, Gun Street Girls, Pony Face, Tim Rogers and others]
• Sunday March 27: Paul Collins at Pure Pop
  
• Friday January 21: Large Number 12s at Pure Pop
• Saturday January 22: Cloudmouth, Lord Bishop Rocks, Conway Savage at Pure Pop
  
• Sunday January 23: Citrus Jam [EP launch], Yeo, The Skybombers at Pure Pop
• Friday January 28: Large Number 12s at Pure Pop
• Saturday January 29: Delsinki Jane, Conway Savage at Pure Pop
• Sunday January 30: Lisa Wood, Nick Batterham, The Skybombers at Pure Pop

LINKS: 

• Pure Pop Records official website
• Pure Pop Records on Facebook
• Pure Pop Records on Twitter

By Paige X. Cho

Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year!

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Paper-Deer would like to wish all its readers, Twitter followers, Facebook fans, Google fans, featured musicians and interviewed industry folk a very merry Christmas, and a totally rad 2011! Paper-Deer started mid-2010, and has managed to pick up a very decent following for an underground music blog in a few months, and would like to thank every artist and industry professional that has been interviewed for sharing some words with us. We also appreciate every re-tweet, Facebook link post and every StumbleUpon recommendation that you have all been spreading out to the interwebz.

Next year will mean bigger and better things for Paper-Deer, including more writers (contact paige.x.cho@gmail.com if you're interested in contributing), more content (including live gig photography), possibly a new-look website and hopefully more readers! So spread the word and tell your fellow music-loving friends about this 100% non-profit Melbourne music blog!

Happy holidays,
The Paper-Deer team



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INDUSTRY INTERVIEW: Tania Wilson of missmanagement & paranoidbydesign

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There sure are quite a lot of managers out there in the Melbourne music scene, but nothing quite says "awesome" like a veteran who's been in the industry since 1995 (when most of the musicians on this blog were probably infants or toddlers), has rubbed shoulders with some pretty illustrious shoulders and has two businesses to her name.

Melbourne artist manager Tania Wilson has seen everything and done it all - everything from large scale international tours, artist development, mentoring, events management, promotions, booking and publicity. She's set up paranoidbydesign, her successful events company, and missmanagement, a management firm set up to help young, budding female managers gets a leg up. 

Paper-Deer listened to Tania's wise words, because honestly if there's something that you want to know about the Melbourne music scene it's probably in her head.

 

What job title do you go by?

Slave to the grindstone.

Sounds violent. And what exactly do you do?

Solve problems, find answers and make sure I have an educated, well-rounded and informed opinion.

What are your plans for 2011 for paranoidbydesign and missmanagement?

missmanagement is working on releases and tours for its artists for 2011 and paranoidbydesign has a heap of events coming up that we’re working hard on.  We’re also establishing our record label so we’ll be sourcing good upcoming artists to release.  Plus we’re expanding the team and welcoming some great girls into the crew which is exciting.

What artists do you currently work with?

I currently manage Fare Evader (VIC)and i, said the sparrow (WA). 

What do you love about them?

I love both bands because they fulfill the checklist of everything you want in a band – they work hard, they’re creative and innovative, they’re young, fresh and unjaded by the industry, they write great songs that I love and will happily play over and over, they have huge potential ahead of them, they respect advice, and they are both a pleasure to work with.

Fare Evader I love because they just make me happy. Working with them is a joy plus it’s always great when the sound guy in every venue gets into your band and gives you his card at the end of the gig asking if you ever need him again. Sparrow is a new challenge and also has a lot of potential. I’m dying to see them live again as I’ve only seen them once (the difficulty of managing an interstate band).

Fare Evader’s new EP is out next year. Has it been exciting and rewarding watching this Melbourne three-piece go from strength to strength?

Fare Evader are always going to be a pride and joy because I’ve known them from the early stages of their career when they were a fledgling band. They are one of those bands that make the hard-yards-and-no-sleep part of management worthwhile. With them, being a manager became a positive experience again and I’m like a happy parent every time they achieve a new milestone. I can’t wait to see where they go from here.

You’ve travelled the world and worked with bands from other Australian cities and other countries. What do you think about the Melbourne music scene and our bands?

I’ve been working in the scene since 1995 and have always thought it was amazing and always appreciated its health and vitality.  No matter where I’ve been I always say hi to my baby again.  But over the years we’ve fallen afoul to things like errant ill-informed legislation and the residentalisation of entertainment precincts.  Venues have struggled against dwindling numbers and increasing costs. 

On the band side I think the scene had a tendency to take itself for granted and other cities have recently overtaken us in successful bands coming out of their towns.  Plus interstate there is greater organisational and government support for the industry in terms of export and education.  I think with things like SLAM and Music Victoria that will start to change hopefully but with the change in local government it will be interesting to see what pans out in the near future. 

I’d strongly disagree that violence was as prevalent as the media and government wanted to make out but I think there is an increasing lack of respect for your fellow patrons when people are out these days. I’d encourage young bands and people entering into the industry to work on not just their individual careers but the Melbourne music community as a whole. Join in with things like Music Victoria so you can work on supporting your industry on a day-to-day basis before it comes to a head like with The Tote. All that being said I think we’ve been lucky and haven’t had as low lows as other states had in the past. Melbourne will always be my favourite just because it’s where I came of age into the industry.

What advice would you give to bands looking for managers?

Just do the job yourself. Too many bands want a manager simply to do the jobs they don’t want to do. If you want to have a mate manage you then just grab a mate who’s good with numbers and on the phone. If you want a proper manager then you have to establish your band as a viable business that a good manager will be interested in.

A lot of bands say they have a manager when really what that person does is book the band gigs – that’s a booking agent and there’s a shortage of those too. A manager manages the business of the band and works on the long term career of the band. A band shouldn’t be too fast to hand over their management as they should be invested in their futures from the ground up and the better job the band does of that the more ready they are to have a proper manager who can take them to the next level. There are different kinds of managers too so you have to work out what kind of support you need and what direction you want to take the band in before you can decide appropriately what kind of manager you need.

On the other side of the coin, any advice for budding artist managers?

Reverse of the previous question – if a band can’t manage themselves you’re not going to be able to manage them and if they’re not prepared to work hard on their careers you’re going to be the only one doing any work and that is just well… stupid. Trust me. It’s okay to say no.

Avoid rockstars. If they’re acting like rockstars when they’re on the way up imagine how they will act when they get to the top, and then when they’re on the way down. The more experience you get in the industry the faster you will spot the fledgling rockstar and the quicker you will walk the other way.   

Aim to be the kind of manager that progresses a band’s career not one that fetches water. At the end of the day the band’s career rests in your hands and it’s a great responsibility. Management often doesn’t receive the overt credit it is due but without a great team that performance never gets onto the stage. 

Find good mentors and managers to network with. I am incredibly lucky in that I have a great set of people I can reach out to and ask advice from and who encourage me.  Find every avenue you can to expand your knowledge base and make new contacts – music conferences (Fuse, Big Sound, One Movement) and industry training (JB Seed Management Workshop, Austrade Masterclasses).  Diplomas and degrees in the industry can be great but make sure you are doing internships and work experience while you are studying. All of the best managers in the country learnt through actually doing it.

Work out what skill sets you have and which ones you’re missing. Make a list of what you have to learn and what you can get someone else to do. These days a manager has to be everything from business manager to personal manager to record label manager. Some things you can just oversee rather than micromanage if you have another person you can trust – like an amazing FOH guy or a great booking agent.

In the early days of a band’s career spend money wisely.  Don’t rush to outsource everything; do what you can yourself in terms of publicity, releasing, branding and marketing. There are great avenues like Amrap/AirIt for sending your songs to radio so save money on a publicist until all elements of the band are ready for the next stage and the money is worth spending. Plus the more you and the band do to develop your personal connections to press/radio, they will do to help you as the band grows the more.  It is always about the authenticity of your business and connection for long terms careers versus one hit wonders.

The most difficult advice is that if things just aren’t working out it’s okay to walk away. Even though you’ve invested your heart and soul and sleepless hours into something it just isn’t working right. You can’t trade your happiness for the “what if next week it breaks out into something big” because it really just isn’t worth it. It’s the hardest lesson to learn.

UPCOMING SHOWS:

• Thursday December 23: Melbourne Fresh Presents Xmas Gig, Revolver Upstairs
• Friday December 24: Fare Evader supports Goldfields, Karova Lounge, Ballarat
• Friday January 21: Summertime Goo, The Palace
• February - March: Fare Evader east coast tour and EP release
• March: i, said the sparrow east coast tour and single release
• Saturday March 12: i, said the sparrow, Rock The Bay, The Espy
• February 7 & 15: Melbourne Fresh Grand Finals 2011

LINKS:

• paranoidbydesign official website
• paranoidbydesign on Myspace
• paranoidbydesign on Twitter
• Fare Evader official website
• i, said the sparrow on Myspace

 

INTERVIEW: The Olivettes

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Being a solo artist certainly has its perks. Practice is whenever you roll out of bed. The set list is completely up to you. You don't have to frantically call up your band mates to check they're available when you get offered a last minute gig. And if you don't like a song, you can scrap it without having to diplomatically tell your band mate that what they've written is terrible.

But nothing beats the fun of having a travelling troupe of musicians to keep you company, and that's exactly why Melbourne muso Courtney Barnett has recently jumped on board the "band" wagon. While Courtney is no newbie when it comes to the live music scene in Melbourne, the singer songwriter recently curated a gang of musicians to give her own tunes an orchestrated sound and the gang was originally known as "Courtney Barnett and The Olivettes". The gang of six soon dropped the first part of the name as it was clear that these musicians have too much talent and ideas to add to simply be a backing band, so Melbourne should start to keep their eyes peeled for a collective simply known as The Olivettes.

Paper-Deer got together with Courtney to talk about the evolution of The Olivettes and how they came up with their moniker.

Describe your sound in one word.

Underwater.

Haha, I’m pretty sure that’s two words! Where does the name “The Olivettes” come from?

A drunken guy said to me once, “I’ve never heard your music but based on the band name I envision five housewife-type females dressed in 1950s flowery dresses singing folk songs.” The Olivettes are three guys and two girls. On the front porch, of a house in Thornbury, next to the door bell, at about shoulder level, is a nice plaque that has the house name, Olivette, on it. I saw it at the first band practice and thought it was pretty. Pete suggested it as the band name, and that was that.

 You’ve been on the music scene in Melbourne for a bit. What inspires you to start projects with others rather than just performing and writing solo?

I get stuck in a rut writing by myself. It gets boring and I catch myself using the same cheap phrases over and over again. Plus I’m neurotic and overly self-critical. When you’re writing with someone else they can say, “Hey, that’s shit. Let’s say ‘steady decline of hair’ instead of ‘bald’, and how about we go to this chord and then the leading note brings it up to the major and blah blah blah I know music theory.” It’s a clichéd thing to say, but I learn so much by writing and performing with other people. I’m pretty shy so it forces me to step outside my comfort zone and sometimes the best ideas happen when you’re just mucking around with band members.

I collaborated with a wonderful songwriter and friend Oliver Mestitz last year and we wrote a song called Things to Consider Before RSVPing to a Party. That was the first time I had sat down with someone else and said, “okay, let’s write a song.” And we literally sat around for a long, long time not doing much at all. Folding bits of paper and flicking them across the room. When we finally got on a roll I found it fascinating, it’s like peeking into someone else’s heart and brain seeing the process of how they carefully word lyrics, how they phrase melodies to suit the songs mood, what they share, what they omit.

On your website, you describe The Olivettes as “a group of musicians sourced by Courtney to mellifluously orchestrate and aesthetically beautify her songs.”  Are The Olivettes your “backing band” or does the rest of the band contribute to the songwriting and decision-making process?

It started off like that. Courtney Barnett & The Olivettes. I showed them my songs and we played them how I’d been playing them for the last three years. But it kind of felt like we were a high school band sight-reading out of a Best Of catalogue. Plus some of my slower girly songs don’t really fit with the summery upbeat pop-bop feel thing we’ve got going on.

We have fun together and they inspire me to write, so without them I don’t know where I’d be heading. We’ve only been playing together for a month or so and we’ve just started writing songs together and sharing ideas. I was walking home from the Tote a few weeks ago, and I came up with these profound lyrics quickly typing them into my phone. I took a disjointed story and one riff to rehearsal the next day, showed the band and they made it awesome. We had a new song. Easy as that. So I think it’s okay to say we are just The Olivettes now.

How do you pick fellow musicians to work with?

I would never “audition” people to play with. I didn’t really know any of the boys from the olivettes that well before we started playing together. We drank at the same places, I saw them play in their other bands, and we made lewd jokes together. Once I’d sussed them out to be really cool people that I enjoyed hanging out with I said, “Do you wanna be in a band with me?” As for Charlie Plumb, she dressed up as David Bowie at a party one night and I knew we were supposed to be together. I like the old-fashioned punk-rock notion of friends getting together to make a band. Come up with the name, make the t-shirts, organise the gigs, write the songs…and then learn the instruments. In that order.

The Olivettes have a residency at Edinburgh Castle this December. Why should Paper-Deer readers traipse along and watch you?

1. Our friends The Merri Creek Pickers and Rob from Immigrant Union are coming along to play support spots. 2. We’re playing prime-time afternoon in the sunny beer garden, so you can smoke, drink, eat, bring your kids, bring your dog, get a sun tan and watch music all at the same time.

Is there any magic mix for you when it comes to songwriting?
I find that the best songs are the ones I write in five minutes without thinking about them too much. I get really inspired by local bands a lot of the time. Yesterday I woke up and felt like something good was going to happen so I went and bought two Lucksmiths CDs for inspiration. There’s no magic mix for me. I normally struggle desperately with song writing and the only thing that works is patience and spontaneity.

UPCOMING SHOWS:

• Friday December 17: The Cornish Arms [Popboomerang Xmas Party, as solo aritst]
• Sunday December 19: Edinburgh Castle residency, from 4pm to 6pm 

 LINKS:

• Courtney Barnett official website 
• Courtney Barnett on Myspace
• The Olivettes on Myspace

By Paige X.Cho

INTERVIEW: Scott Thurling of Popboomerang

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"I'm going to start a record label!" Sure, lots of people say that phrase and it's usually met with lots of eye-rolling. One man did that and succeeded massively, and now has big acts like Frente!, Skipping Girl Vinegar and Celadore under his roster. Meet Scott Thurling, the man who started, runs and makes all the decisions for Melbourne indie label Popboomerang. That may be a lot of hats to wear, but the Melbourne-based label manager must have a huge coat rack as the only brain behind the thriving label.

Paper-Deer picked at Scott's brain for his tips on how to get your act on an indie label, and all things record label.

What do you do at Popboomerang?

I am Label Manager at Popboomerang Records. Being a one man operation this obviously means I am sole decision maker in regard to the bands that are signed and the overall direction of the label. I do a level of artist management & development &  publicity as well as booking shows and all other admin involved in running the label.

How did Popboomerang come about?

Popboomerang was established in 2000 & released the first recordings in 2002. I’ve always been a MASSIVE music consumer, and perhaps because I don’t play music, was always interested in music business as well. Popboomerang started as a “swap shop” website around 1997 trading Australian Pop & Rock titles to overseas fans in return for CD’s unavailable in Oz. I would make CD samplers of the Aussie bands for the overseas fans and enjoyed this so much the idea started to form of legitimising things to form a proper label.

What do you think boutique, indie labels have going that major labels can’t touch?

Indie labels enjoy faster decision making, are more personal and timely communication wise and ideally, can carve out a niche in the music scene and to produce intense consumer loyalty as well as a real “community feel” and support amongst the bands. They can spot trends in the industry & react to them faster. Of course there are disadvantages in to working with a small label and bands need to weigh up their options if they are in a position of having some labels courting.

There are some really rad bands on Popboomerang’s roster, including Skipping Girl Vinegar, Frente, Georgia Fields and Young Werther. Is there a common thread among all the bands on your label?

The most common trend about the bands that have done well on the label is a high level of ambition and passion about their music and overall career. That intensity and hunger is something I look for when considering adding a band to the label. Not every band is in a position to tour as extensively as bands like Skipping Girl Vinegar, Celadore or The Bon Scotts but it is a dream if they can!

Which young band on the Popboomerang label are you most excited about for 2011?

I think Celadore qualify for this one as they are truly one of the youngest & most hard working bands on the label. The guys head into the studio this week to start recording the follow up to Distance Is A Gun .The Solomons made a splash with their debut EP this year and are about to record a bunch of songs for release in 2011.

If you could get us to listen to one album/release from a Popboomerang artist, which would it be and why?

That is tough, like asking a parent to name a favourite child!!! The releases which have made the biggest impact with fans and the media include Skipping Girl Vinegar’s Sift The Noise, The Aerial Maps’s In The Blinding Sunlight and Georgia Fields’ new self-titled album. Releases by Tim Reid, Tamas Wells, Underminers, Bon Scotts and Splendid are among others have also been very well received.

Is there a difference between a good band and an excellent band that will be successful?

If there was a secret I would not be telling. But seriously an “excellent band” has to have a point of difference in some way in their recorded music & hopefully also in their live performance. I have seen bands I thought were “excellent” waste their talent and implode & bands who I felt were “good” get every ounce of success possible by working really hard.

Any tips for bands interested in getting signed by Popboomerang? Any hints or anything they should definitely avoid doing (e.g. stalking you)?

Do your research on the roster! Don’t send in recordings for consideration that are devoid of melody! Don’t waste my time with styles of music Popboomerang does not release don’t work with (rap, hard rock, dance or reggae etc.) Be polite in following up for feedback, persistence is fine up to a point (over email is best). Be imaginative and eye catching with your promo packs but don’t go over the top. Don’t sulk or burn your bridges if you don’t get a release as labels often “talk” and recommend bands to each other (or not).

Do you do anything else in the music industry?

I have done some mentoring for Freezer/The Push. But the sad news is I head off to the dreaded day job each day. Rock n’ roll has not made me rich yet! Ever hopeful.

Any tips for young industry kids who are keen on starting labels or working for record labels?

I would hope they have rich generous parents or partners!! But seriously, they need to be aware that the industry is changing and the old models of recouping your investment from CD sales alone are gone. I would encourage them to do some work experience in established labels or seek out some mentoring before starting out alone. I would say learn from your mistakes and don’t repeat them (in saying that successful decisions you make along the way are not always replicated).

 UPCOMING EVENTS:

• Friday December 17: Popboomeranng Xmas Party at The Cornish Arms, free entry, featuring The Bon Scotts, D.Rogers Band, Georgia Fields (duo), Underminers (duo), Courtney Barnett (solo), Greg Williams (solo) and Remake DJs. Free event sampler here.

LINKS:

• Popboomerang Records official website
• Popboomerang Records on Myspace
• Popboomerang Records on Facebook
• Popboomerang Records on Twitter

BY PAIGE X. CHO

INDUSTRY INTERVIEW: Quincy McLean of Bakehouse Studios and SLAM Rally

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If the Melbourne music industry was a town, Quincy McLean would surely be mayor. As the founder, owner and head honcho of Bakehouse Studios, the industry veteran has helped everyone from the world's biggest rock stars to Melbourne's youngest bands within his rehearsal and recording complex's walls. More recently, Quincy's moniker may be one to make politicians quake in their boots, as one of the primary organisers behind Melbourne's groundbreaking SLAM Rally to protect the Victorian music scene from downright ridiculous claims from the government and over-the-top liquor licensing practices.

Paper-Deer managed to have a chat to the busy man about how his Bakehouse, his tips for young industry kids and his work with SLAM.

What do you do at Bakehouse Studios?

I set up Bakehouse as a small, single-room rehearsal studio in 1991 and it gradually evolved into a recording/rehearsal complex. The staff call me Quincy but you can call me the boss. 

How did Bakehouse become to be?

I started it when I was in a band that needed somewhere to rehearse and record. Then we had a son, Angus. I had to feed a family so I had to find a way to make a buck and it had to grow. The birth of our daughter Lola seven years later ramped up the pressure so I've had to keep improving the place and expanding it to keep the bands coming and happy.

Weirdest shit to go down at Bakehouse?

This is the entertainment business, you could write a sit.com about the stupid stuff that happens here but I don't know whether you have the space for the character development to do it justice. Names would have to be changed to protect the innocent, ignorant or down right thick headed. You'll have to wait for my biography.

Bakehouse has seen some pretty awesome musicians within its walls, like Nick Cave, The Drones, Beasts of Bourbon and Beth Orton. Do you ever get star struck, and by who?

I'm Stranded was the first Australian album I ever bought. It was punk. Its genesis was independent and totally self-funded although the album ended up coming out on EMI. It was the major turning point for my preferred styles and mind sets in music and it changed my life. So when the original Saints were gearing up for their first gigs outside of Brisbane in over 30 years, it was a massive few days for me. Q: Star struck? A: With not a hint of shame.

What else have you done in the music industry? You were  obviously a musician, but have you filled the roles of band manager, venue booker and other assorted titles?

Yes, have dabbled in all of the above. 95% of my staff are very creative people on their own missions. All of them are passionate, connected and very much involved in Melbourne’s musical soup with many of them taking breaks to tour the world with their bands or to undertake  solo expeditions.

Another aspect of the “music industry” that we have tackled was the SLAM Rally, which my wife Helen and I organized in February this year. It blew out to require lobbying of liquor licensing and the government for the last 8 months and a resulted in some very positive changes to the LLC's procedures. Most importantly, live music will never be deemed to be a contributing factor in violent behavior in Victoria again.

In your opinion, what’s the single most irritating thing a band can do while recording?

Whatever it takes to get the result they require is their prerogative but "it's your dime". If bands don't respect the process, that's pretty dumb. You can have a healthy or anarchistic handle on it and great art can come from apparent chaos, but even the Pistols and Edgard Varez respected their process.

Any advice for bands on how to get the most out of their recording time?

In the words of Chris Bailey of the Saints, “know your product”. Study the classics, learn how to edit yourself and cut the shit, practice heaps and make sure you do as much of this as you can before

The tape starts rolling (so to speak), the clock starts ticking and the debtometre starts to explode.

Any tips on starry-eyed kids interested in getting into sound engineering, production and recording?

Immerse yourself in your area of passion thick locally. The bands you are likely to get your first gig with are more likely to be playing at the Tote than Etihad Stadium so frequent the Tote, Old Bar, and other small venues. More truly great inspired music happens in little venues than the over-polished tired old crap made by hacks going through the motions to sheep with binoculars in stadiums.

 LINKS:

• Bakehouse Studios official website 
• Bakehouse Studios on Facebook
• SLAM Rally official website 

BY PAIGE X. CHO